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Poll: Specialization Training Rule

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Lagi
Duquin
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Should Specialization Training Be Segregated or Merged?

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Duquin

Duquin
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A-Tier

I was just informed of an, until now, "unwritten" rule which was being enforced. The rule has been added in as of today, but this poll/discussion is in order to determine whether or not the rule should stay. Do keep in mind that this is a member created poll and that staff is not bound to executing on the results. So please do not complain if they decide the rule should stay for good reason.

Rule:
Specialization System wrote:Just like abilities, you cannot blend the word count when training specializations.
Specialization training must be performed in chunks. D-tier training must be complete and approved before moving on to do wordcounts for C-tier training. If your Spec is at C-tier, you must write out your B-tier training and get it approved before writing your A-tier training.

Suggestion:
I do not see the purpose behind requiring a player go get each rank approved individually. My suggestion is to remove this rule and allow specialization ranks to be trained in bulk.

Training a spec is different from training an ability. One ability might be completely different from another which is why it makes sense to separate their word counts. However, each stage of a specialization training is all the same general act of improving yourself in a specific field.  It's far easier on all parties involved and less work for staff if a player is able to simply train as much as they were inspired to write for in one sitting. So long as they have the appropriate rank and meet all other conditions for training to that spec tier, there shouldn't be a problem.

For example, a newly ranked up B-tier character should be able to drop 2500 words in a single post to get their secondary up to C-tier if they wished to do so.

2000 to unlock the spec at D-tier
500 to rank up to C-tier


Discuss, vote, etc.

Lagi

Lagi
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Ω-Tier

Seems pointless, you cant necessarily combine the word counts anyway, and we do have the system of
to utilize if we wanted to put one part of the post as a upgrade count to something else. Honestly, it's all about the sense of having more freedom as a player, it doesnt necessarily hurt anyone when the end result is getting the word count done. It matters and it doesnt matter, because with the specialization training, the next post is in the same atmosphere with that 500 word count being applied to upgrade from d to c.

i'm a bit undecided here, or maybe i'm not understanding something.

Duquin

Duquin
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A-Tier

The suggestion I'm proposing would be to allow you to combine the word counts(For individual specializations.) That is part of what I meant by "train in bulk". The ability to do all your spec training in a single post if you so wish.

Ace

Ace
β-Tier
β-Tier

I mean, I don't know if I can really have a say since I've only been on this site for a short while anyways and I'm still not 100% sure how everything works. But since we have to split up our posts anyways, at least in the sense of that training takes days/weeks to learn (RP time), then is it really a big deal to finish the training for one tier with one post and then continue with another, since you need to spread it out over multiple days anyways? Just my two cents. I mean, for 500 words, I guess it's kinda iffy since it's such a short post, but that's pretty much the only time it'll be frustrating I'd think.

Duquin

Duquin
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A-Tier

Ace wrote:I mean, I don't know if I can really have a say since I've only been on this site for a short while anyways and I'm still not 100% sure how everything works. But since we have to split up our posts anyways, at least in the sense of that training takes days/weeks to learn (RP time), then is it really a big deal to finish the training for one tier with one post and then continue with another, since you need to spread it out over multiple days anyways? Just my two cents. I mean, for 500 words, I guess it's kinda iffy since it's such a short post, but that's pretty much the only time it'll be frustrating I'd think.

You can do time skips in a single post. You can cover 3 months or even 3 years of time(likely in a flashback) in one post if you wanted. So I'm not sure why you believe that you "need" to separate your posts anyways.

There is still also the matter of having to wait for staff to approve your first training post before you would be allowed to begin on your second post. That can break the flow of your creative writing, especially on days when you're posting while no staff is online or they are having one of their slow streaks.

Kabutop

Kabutop
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A-Tier

I don't think waiting for staff approval is really a factor, since u can still write the stuff just stick it in a, side pad or something if ur worried about ur creativity pot running out. Though having the option to go from 0 to C in one post would be ideal.

I am also assuming, your suggestion also cover when upgrading multiple ranks. : For whatever reason you have reached A rank but not bothered with your specialisation. Going from D to A in a single topic. Otherwise i would think over 500 words the topic somewhat pointless
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Well i'm not staff but i would assume this rule generally comes down to staff preference: Is it easier to read 1 larger chunk, or is it a more enjoyable read for them to see each stage of development separately. I can't speak for myself because my writing is pretty much but some people can write pretty well.

Vardreth

Vardreth
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Ω-Tier

I want to make mention that you wouldn't have to stop writing the next part of the training (you finish your D-Tier training in 1 segment, and then start your C-Tier training right after) before it is approved. Chronologically, your word-count has to stop for each section. At this point in time, it's fine so long as they are segmented (it is supposed to work like ability training; segmented, but you can continue to write and train other abilities in the same topic before they are all graded).

I am not placing an opinion one way or the other for whether whether people should be able to train it with blended word count or if people should only train it with segmented word count. Just clarifying the rules as they stand.

Duquin

Duquin
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A-Tier

Garret misinformed me over Skype about that. I'm less concerned about this now. I'll keep my vote as it is though since this would streamline the spec training process.

Vardreth

Vardreth
Ω-Tier
Ω-Tier

XD Sometimes I am very bad at explaining things in real time, lol.

Ariella Negri

Ariella Negri
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Ω-Tier

I would prefer to keep it as is because each chunk of training is supposed to denote what new ways you have found to improve your spec in whatever fashion. At the very least, I feel the OBTAINING of a secondary or tertiary spec should have its own dedicated WC, completely separate from IMPROVING on that spec, as learning something completely unknown should be its own "event," in a fashion.

Beyond that initial training, I am not too particularly picky, but it just makes more sense to show it in stages, RP wise... People don't typically go from being total crap at something to being pretty damned good at it all in the same "event" or spread of training, its something that is built gradually. Personally, its more fun to see how each player defines what they have learned and improved on as a stand-alone thing instead of in a giant rush of everything else.

Vardreth

Vardreth
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Ω-Tier

So far, based on the feedback from people in general, there is not a large push for a change in this. I am considering this suggestion completed.

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