The Inherent Black

Trait Name:Enhanced Magoi
Trait Tier: B
Trait Requirement: -
Trait Description: Blessed by the rukh, the player has an unnaturally large pool of magoi to draw from.
Trait Effect: +60 Max Magoi

Upgrading to A

Trait Name:Enhanced Magoi
Trait Tier: A
Trait Requirement: -
Trait Description: Blessed by the rukh, the player has an unnaturally large pool of magoi to draw from.
Trait Effect: +80 Max Magoi

Trait Name:Deep Black Ocean
Trait Tier: B
Trait Requirement: -
Trait Description:The player is gifted with an unnaturally potent pool of magoi
Trait Effect: abilities casted take half of the required Magoi to fulfill (With the Exception of Omega Tier Abilities, which may recieve a reduction of B tier(30) Magoi)

Trait Name:Meditative Restore
Trait Tier: D
Trait Requirement: -
Trait Description:Through many years in solace and danger Jahan has strengthened his meditative abilities to an unnatural point. While in a meditative state Jahanghir can recover magoi through burning his life force(Stamina)
Trait Effect: Jahan may meditate up to once per turn, while in a meditative state jahan may pay in stamina to recover an equivalent amount of magoi.


TP USED

Upgrade From B-A = 1
B Tier Trait = 2
D Tier Trait = 1

Total= 4/9

deep black ocean: Unfortunately, that wouldn't be accepted here. When mentioned before in creations discussion, we said that the discounts had to be something very specific. It can't be based on all things that require magoi to cast. In addition to that, it' 3/4ths at b-tier and half cost at A-tier. You would have to invest more points if you wanted half cost towards something. This ratio is based on past approvals, which inadvertently is becoming a standard.

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Meditative restore: A one for one? Stamina for Magoi? Not sure, I'll bite anyway and say that if.......this cannot be done in combat or you just cross your legs in the middle of a fight, it's good. You must be out of active combat in order to do this, aka (rest). in addition to that, since it's D-tier, your conversion won't be instant, you'll have to sit there for a couple more posts

I might even just rule on it using dot ratios and say it's 20 for 20 once per post. Being attacked or disrupted in any way would break your concentration. Theory-wise, plot-related.. i'd say that your mysticism for the meditative state should work in reverse...magoi for stamina instead of vice versa because would of taught you that? it's like a magician thing.

So I also request the description be a little longer and mention that someone or "something" taught you that method when you was MIA in the mysterious dungeon.

that's all for now

Honestly I dont understand many of the observations in this ruling, So I actually want to take up a few questions for my understanding because something seems to be off.

For starters:

"A one for one? Stamina for Magoi? Not sure, I'll bite anyway and say that if.......this cannot be done in combat or you just cross your legs in the middle of a fight, it's good."

Why would a 1 for 1 or otherwise equal cost to pay off be strange? What is there to not be sure about the equality of the cost for the pay out?

and further,

If we are, and this I am sure of for fact able to Heal/Regenerate an equivalent of Damage in costs (magoi/stamina), through abilities, magic items, symbiotes, etc. while in combat, & we are able to absorb magoi through equips which is simply magoi restoration, for an equal cost.

Why can't we restore magoi through different means  while in combat, than I should be able to through my own devices? We Seem to have explored every bit of restoration

Why is it that magoi is now off the limits when in other every other way restoration is possible?

Which leads me to my next point,

" Theory-wise, plot-related.. i'd say that your mysticism for the meditative state should work in reverse...magoi for stamina instead of vice versa because would of taught you that? it's like a magician thing.

Now this is a more ludicrous point than anything I believe I've brought up, with all respect Lagi. You cant tell me that the idea of meditating to restore energy is a unique concept to you?

Have you never seen Dragon Ball? Naruto? This isn't a new idea that Im bringing up, the idea that warriors meditate to hone, control, restore their energy is a very ancient trope and belief. You can find it in Dragon Ball, The Journey West and a copious amount of anime and manga.

I just can't stand on the sensibility that the entire staff backed you down on that one, this isnt an idea that is foreign to the concept of warrior class. Martial Artist believe in similar concepts even today.  Also, I do have other meditation abilities, Jahan in plot is has trained in meditation since I very first conceptualized him, If I have to reference texts of strenuous training Jahan did while meditating, I can.

I can explain on ends about meditation but it would be ridiculous to do that. Even in magi meditation is used in magoi training.

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So I also request the description be a little longer and mention that someone or "something" taught you that method when you was MIA in the mysterious dungeon."

With that said, I dont believe anybody needs to have "taught", Jahan anything within the "???" Dungeon to be able to meditate. The ideas a simple and common concept, and  its strange for you to ask me to apply a very specific unique plot point into it.  I feel like at that point you're trying to control my fluff aswell.

Lastly

It can't be based on all things that require magoi to cast. In addition to that, it' 3/4ths at b-tier and half cost at A-tier. You would have to invest more points if you wanted half cost towards something. This ratio is based on past approvals, which inadvertently is becoming a standard.


1.) Honestly it being only applying to Magoi abilities was the restriction I had in mind because the nature of the ability was to say that jahanghir had a more concentrated or honed/potent lake of magoi. Which was supposed to tie into the meditation aspects.

However ok, I'll bite the bullet. How about this, Half Cost for all of Gremorys Magic Typings

it' 3/4ths at b-tier and half cost at A-tier. You would have to invest more points if you wanted half cost towards something.

What Does this even mean?

Strange? No, you're the first to do it so we are playing all of this by ear. I didn't say "no", I just said that as a pioneer with that specific trait or aka, a method that no one else is doing. "should this be allowed? how do we regulate to make sure it's balanced and the player is still satisfied", all these questions every creation mod will ask themselves. I'm trying to give you a fair shake, regardless of the speculations.

As 1 for 1 mana restoration, you would be breaking ground. It's different from absorption from an omega tier metal vessel, and it's not like Merrie's curse mark where you blocked off reserves and have some crazy curse magic shenanigans. Now, why can't you do this during combat? It's a meditative state, there is no real mid-combat meditation where you can do a 1 for 1 reserve switch. If you are going the meditation route, this can't be done in battle. It doesn't make sense to me per say for you to be able to meditate in the middle of combat.


Outside of the djinn, most regenerations involve food and rest through tents. We never said it's not possible, but the method has to make sense and be excusable for the purpose you are using it for, Meditating in the middle of combat is a no-go.

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I'm aloof about your background involving meditation, but observations from a warrior standpoint, magoi is a universal reserve. It makes more sense "to me" for the magoi to be sacrificed in order to give you supernatural conditioning or aka, return your stamina reserves. the "it's like a magician thing" was just some old conversation i had with garret when he was running warrior magician back in the days and was thinking how to compensate for magicians constitution. That's all that was. Magoi has a multitude of uses.

Vice versa, stamina is not as universal, so there would have more of a plot-related pull in order to explain that. I still said I'd humor it anyway, If you want to be resistant to that description or an extra sentence that's fine, the freshest plot tool I know about you at the time was the mia status in the dungeon and it something i could see that you learned during the (months? years?) you were stuck there. But you don't got to do that.

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everything else... i mean ill just say this.

By specifics, if you said: only magoi manipulation - id be like "ok", want it only for your specific mv and say you have attuned to the magoi regulation of your metal vessel so that the prices cost less, ok. Can't be across the board but if you focus on one thing its fair game.


3/4's the price= a 40 magoi ability will cost 30<< at this rate, I'll allow sustaining to continue to give you half the reserve cost if you keep it at B-tier

At a-tier= 40 magoi ability will cost 20<< however, sustain won't half the price as usual. That's my decision on balancing it.

Please let me know if you have any more questions.

Upgrading to A and droppin the rest

Trait Name:Enhanced Magoi
Trait Tier: A
Trait Requirement: -
Trait Description: Blessed by the rukh, the player has an unnaturally large pool of magoi to draw from.
Trait Effect: +80 Max Magoi

thats fine, approved. but next time, please post it up in the review of the creation.